Lance Kronberger has asked me to develop a hun...

Lance Kronberger has asked me to develop a hunting pant for him. Waterproof, breathable and VERY durable; a pant that will last a hunting season of 200+ days, beginning in mid-April with Spring Grizzlies, Kodiak for Brown Bears in May & June, salmon fishing and sheep scouting in July, August and September Dall’s Sheep, Grizzly, Mountain Goats and finishing with Brown Bears in the late fall.

Lance has been destroying multiple sets of hardshell rain pants every season and has not found a pant by ANY company that will hold up to his abuse. Not surprising at all.

Schoeller, an incredibly innovative Swiss textile company, makes the most durable textiles in the world for various applications.  I have partnered with Schoeller to build a set of gear that will withstand the professional abuse of mountain guides.

The fabric Schoeller developed is very unique, a durable and abrasive resistant nylon 3-layer waterproof and breathable, 4-way stretch textile. It is treated with Nanosphere, Schollers innovative DWR, that not only repels water, but resists oil and dirt which will keep the fabric cleaner which bear guides will appreciate.   This fabric is not silent, however surprisingly quiet for a 3-layer shell material. We are sacrificing weight for high durability.

Lance and I designed the pant with cargo pockets for storage, full leg zippers with two zipper heads to ventilate, built-in waist belt and zippered fly for ease of use. For added durability we bonded another very abrasion resistant nylon fabric on the cuffs, knees and seat to significantly increase the durability and longevity of this pant.

The Jacket was designed around storage for the guide. Like the pants we were not concerned about saving weight, so we added a bonded vertical zippered inside pocket large enough for a satellite phone, two front chest pockets, plus a shoulder pocket for stashing the small stuff.  We included KUIU’s two-way cinch storm hood, YKK weather resistant zippers, oversized cuff tabs and waist cinches to handle the bad weather Kodiak and the Chugach will throw at it.

Bemis seam tape and Bemis heat activated glue was used for all seams and bonding to insure durability and reliability.  This gear was created in Tamoda Apparel’s advanced development room in Vancouver. This development pushes design and innovation, which gives me and my team insight that can only be gained from this type of problem solving.

Lance is testing this new product concept this season and I will post his comments and feed back.  He just returned from his first hunt this season wearing the gear with very very positive feedback on the fabric, design, durability and comfort. The pants and jacket held up perfectly.  So far his only request is to move the knee reinforcement 2″ lower and make the inside pocket for the satellite phone larger.  I will continue to post up dates on this new gear during the testing phase Lance will run it though this spring on Kodiak.

It is unheard of to share this type of product innovation and development during the testing and design phase of a product concept. I am willing to take the risk to give you more insight of our design and testing phase. You all are such gear nuts I thought you might enjoy following the process. Please let me know you thoughts and comments.  I always value your input.

Jason

This article has 101 comment(s)

  1. john

    I’ve owned some Schoeller soft shell pants for about 10 years. Awesome material. The new stuff sounds really interesting. Keep it up!

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks John, Schoeller makes some great products.

      Jason

  2. Billy Ward

    Its really nice to see your gear tested by guys that spend alot of time in the field. I destroy hunting clothing, rain gear, and packs. I have spent alot of time on Kodiak Island the devils club and salmon berry thickets are a test all alone. I can hardly wait for the icon pack to show up on my door step in May. Thank you for the clothing already received, and keep up the good work. Billy

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Billy! I appreciate the comment and input.

      Jason

  3. Bryan aka TradRag

    AWESOME! I love what you are doing Jason!

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Bryan!!

      Jason

  4. Larry Schwartz

    Jason,

    Tell us more about the “built in waist belt”, what is that?

      • Larry Schwartz

        Thanks Curt, I thought he was talking about a built in waistbelt like on a pack suspension.

  5. Huntem

    What a proper way to break in gear with a little blood. Looking forward to the development.

    • Jason Hairston

      Lance heads to Kodiak next, I will keep you up dated here on the blog.

      Jason

  6. kendall

    Jason, I never bought any Sitka gear as I was always sceptical of its durability. Now, after following your development blog, I am putting your Attack pants to the test, but I must be honest, the full poly construction has me “curious” about how they are going to hold up to abrasion and snaggging. I’ve been wearing them on my hikes down here in the scrub oak and prickly pear, so far, so good, but they do have a huge hurdle to get over to replace my Mammut Champs pants that have been my gold standard for mountain hunting for many years. I am a huge fan of Schoeller’s fabrics and I look forward to your development of this new line.

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Kendall,

      Schoeller certainly has its place in the KUIU line. You give up weight and noise for the higher abrasian resistance and durability. There is certainly a balance in deciding goals of the product. I am as excited as you are to add some of Schoellers fabrics into our line up of gear in the future. Thanks for your input and comment, as usual very insightful.

      Jason

  7. Jeff M. Valunas

    Jason-
    As ALWAYS, another great post on Building KUIU! Since this apparel, is still in the ‘testing’ phase… Any chance, you will be able to have it available in the tall size, from the beginning??? And, any update on the tall sizing, for the current line? Basically, Is there even a chance/prayer that the tall size will be available by Oct. 1 st!?!?!?
    Thanks for Everything,
    JMV

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Jeff,
      Thanks for your comment. I have not forgotten tall sizes. October 1st may be optimistic, but we will see??

      Jason

  8. Curt Cabrera

    Lance must be quite a guy to spend time in the field, and around a campfire at night with. Three words come to mind everytime I read about Lance….The Real Deal!!

    • Steve Ameral

      Curt,
      I spent a few hours with Lance at the open house and your assessment is correct. What a genuine person and just a really good guy.
      Makes you want to book a trip just so you can spend some time with him. Lots of stories and nothing false about this guy.

      • Jason Hairston

        Thanks Steve, he is the real deal for sure and one of the most generous and nicest person you will ever meet.

        J

  9. beau purvis

    I like the way you keep after making things better. My favorite pants over the last 10 yrs were made by Black Diamond and used schoeller fabric. I have used them a fair amount…3 sheep hunts and lots of mule deer hunts…and more…..and they look close to new. I have a lot of respect for that companies fabric.They are nothing like what you are now working on…waterproof,etc. And, I think they will be taking a back seat to the Kuiu pants.

  10. Gale Smith

    So, what does all this mean for KUIU and the KUIU customers?

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Gale,

      If this pant and jacket passes our testing we will be taking it to market. If no we will be working with Scholler and Tamoda to improve it. This product will not be for everyone as it has a very specific use and high durability.

      Jason

      • Gale Smith

        This is great news. This is the type of product I was hoping KUIU was going to originally going to kick out. I am not a big fan of weather resistant clothing. I like weather proof clothing that can be vented. I feel that with weather resistant clothing, you will end up pushing the clothing past its capabilities and it’s usually in a situation that you are absolutely dependent upon the clothing performing. This is why I held off on getting the Guide Jacket. I wanted water-proof and more pockets. I do really like the Attack Pants that I got though. My wife is already sick of me wearing them everywhere.

        • Jason Hairston

          It this jacket continues to pass the test, it will be in a class of it’s own.

          Jason

  11. Rob B

    J, super stoked on the new line. Colour looks great. I have a pair of schoeller pants form MEC. Really like the chest pocket on the jacket. Was wondering if you could include pitzips on the new jacket. I find them invaluable on a climb to dump heat especially in early season BC.

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Rob,

      There are Pit-Zips on this jacket, just for got to list them. Thanks for the compliments on the new gear. Please send us your photos.

      J

  12. Ryan Bales

    I like the idea, except for the sacrificing weight for durability. There is definitely a fine-line and it seems the two cannot not truly co-exist with most articles of clothing. How much heavier than the Attack or Chugach are these pants going to be. I don’t mind heavy for some of my hunts, but for the real remote, extended hunts I honesty feel that the Attack/Chugach is a great combo. It will be cool to see the end product.

    p.s.- Any word on stickers? Is there going to be a 2nd round? My feelings were hurt when my hunting buddy Steve got one in the mail a couple weeks ago but I didn’t. Did I say something wrong?:)

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Ryan,

      We are in catch up mode on the stickers from the launch and have another large mailing going out this week.

      I agree with you, the Chugach and Attack pants are the most advanced gear for the hunter on the market. This is what I recommend for KUIU’s customers.

      This new product development is OVER KILL for almost every hunter. If you spend a lot of time in your rain gear in nasty conditions, this will be the gear for you. It is not light weight and not packable. Lance needs something that he will not destroy in the middle of a 21 day hunt on Kodiak and have to deal with a tear or leak the rest of the hunt and have another set flown in by his next client.

      J

  13. Justin Starck

    Thanks for sharing this Jason; it is very cool to see what is coming. It sounds like a great for Alaskan guides and hunters that spend a lot of time in the north who wear waterproof gear most of the time. However, it is probably overkill for most of us in the lower 48 who only need rain gear for afternoon thunderstorms in most cases. Hopefully there is still a big enough market for this type of waterproof gear as it is something certain hunters would really appreciate.

    As far as other product development, I was wondering if any of us blog subscribers could have an opportunity to test prototype gear through an application process. I understand that this could be more work for you than benefit, but I didn’t think it would hurt to ask. You have filled all my needs with your current system with the exception of gaiters, so that is the one item I would really like to see soon.

    Oh, I also like that you chose a different textile company than what you are already using. It is a great indication that you are continuing to search for the best fabric for the application.

    • Larry Schwartz

      Justin,

      The KUIU product line provides great kit for any hunter, but we all need to remember that the focus/target audience for KUIU is people who hunt in extreme environments like the mountains. So, even if an item might not appeal to someone who chases whitetails on the East Coast or only goes hunting 10-20 days a year, that doesn’t mean that it wouldn’t make sense from the perspective of the KUIU business plan.

      Jason now has the infrastructure in place to develop products for multiple targeted markets if he so desires.

      Larry

      • Ryan Avery

        I live in the lower 48 and it rains 60% of the days I hunted last year. I expect rain almost every time I go out. There are lots of micro climates in the states. So lets not say one size fits all.

        Ryan

      • Justin Starck

        Larry,

        I am insulted. I live and hunt the mountains. It has been my experience that in Wyoming and Colorado, I don’t wear my rain gear 95% of the time during the months of July, August and September. Therefore, I prefer something that is going to be lighter and more compact in my pack. I consider the Chugach set more than sufficient for most people hunting the Rockies in the lower 48. It’s not like they are going to fall apart once you get over 20 days in the mountains with them. They would most likely even hold up to a once in a lifetime hunt up north. I stand by my statement that the Schoeller raingear is pry overkill for many of us, and the Chugach set would be more suitable.

        Thanks, Justin Starck.

      • Justin Starck

        Ryan,

        I am guessing you might be from the NW? If I spent more time in the in a wetter climate, I would consider them, but I don’t. I hope Jason does well with these as it is something some hunters would benefit from.

        Justin

        Justin

      • Jason Hairston

        Thanks Larry!

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Justin,

      Thanks for the feedback and comment as usual. Schoeller is a natural fit for KUIU as they are a category leader for durability and their nanosphere. We do not currently have plans to give product to blog subscribers to test, but this is something I will note for the future.

      Jason

      • Justin Starck

        I have no doubt the Schoeller is a natrual fit for KUIU. It just isn’t a natural fit for me. I am going to get more benifit from the light weight performance of the Toray but for guys that go through multiple sets of rain gear a year, the Schoeller would pry be the thing to go with. I just thought it was funny that there seems to be an attitude now that that the Chugach set is for walking your kids to school in the rain.

        With guys like Lance testing your gear, I doubt we could be of much help anyway. Thanks for entertaining the thought. : )

  14. Dewey Riesterer

    Sounds like an excellent BC-AK pant and just what working bush guys need. I would like to see “short” inseams, larger waists and “earth tones” available in these and am pleased to see the colour options available in your line.

    I spent many years where I would be alone in remote BC and Alberta wilderness for months at a time and I would have loved to have had clothing such as you are introducing during that period of my life. There is lots of gear out there, but, very little that is REALLY good and WORKS as the makers claim it will, I think that you are setting a new standard in this respect.

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks for the input and comment Dewey. You will appreciate this set up!

      J

  15. Brent Hahn

    Jason, when you say weight is not an issue I think alot of guys are thinking “heavy” , can u ballpark the overall weight for the pants and jacket,
    put me down for 1 of each XL jacket, L pant!
    Brent

    • Jason Hairston

      LOL! Brent you cannot help yourself! I do not have a weight for the gear, it arrived during the Grand Opening and I handed it Lance to take it back north to test. I will ask him to throw it on a scale for us.

      J

  16. Don Carpenter

    I love that the gear you make has an athletic fit. I am used to Army Gore-tex fabric which is tough but it sounds like your rustling around in a pile of leaves every time you take a step not to mention that you feel like the Michelin man because the cut is so bulky. I would suggest putting the tougher fabric on the elbows too for shooting in the prone position, just my two cents anyway.

    • Larry Schwartz

      x2 on the reinforced elbows.

      • Jason Hairston

        Well noted!

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks for the input and feedback Don.

      J

  17. Jerry Gowins

    I think it’s great that you’re sharing the product development with us. It sends the message to customers that the product they eventually buy will be top notch – not just a bunch of marketing hype.

    Good stuff!!

    Jerry

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Jerry, I thought you may find this of interest.

      J

  18. Ryan Avery

    I live in north Idaho and while I don’t hunt 200 plus days a year, the north Idaho rain forest does trash a pair of rain pants a year! I would love to see a more durable all weather system.

    • Jason Hairston

      Ryan this will be right in your wheel house.

      J

  19. Roger

    Jason:

    Do the reinforcements on the cuffs of the pant legs include a large patch on the inseam side, like an edge-guard or crampon-guard on mountaineering pants? That would be a great feature. It would need to be fairly large – some companies’ edge guards on their pants are too small to cover the entire wear area on the inseam surface of the cuff.

  20. Cameron Meier

    So would this gear be the heaviest set of gear you have designed so far? (In terms of warmth?) Looks interesting, but like you said Jason probably for a select group of people. For most the attack pants and chugach pants and jacket will be great. I bet these will be spendy.

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Cameron,
      It is not as warm as the Guide Jacket as there is no insulation in this gear or a fleece backer. Just a very abrasian resistant face fabric and backer fabric with a PU waterproof breathable laminate between the two. It is a very durable and tough set of rain gear.

      Jason

  21. Evan Williams

    Absolutely incredible! Jason, thank you for allowing us in on the ride. Can’t wait to hear more on this one!

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Evan for the feed back and comment. Glad to hear you find this of interest.

      Jason

  22. Jordan

    Sounds like awesome gear! Thanks for the update.

    • Jason Hairston

      Your Welcome Jordan.

      Jason

  23. beau purvis

    removable pads for the elbow are quieter and softer on the elbow. Imho,better at least for the prone shooting support ,and for crawling in using elbows to get to a beded mule deer with a bow.

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Beau for the input. Well noted.

      Jason

  24. Matt

    What a great product line! I can really see the use for a work type setup like that. They would be a great ATV pant. I think I’d get a pair to compliment my backpack rain gear for uses like Lance’s and as my utility pant. Nice color as well. KUIU is amazing me more and more.. Kudos on making your passion a reality.

    My use for these? I wear River Trekkers over a pair of Helly Hansen pants now (http://www.overshoe.com/recreational/products/detail.php?s=RTK8). If I have to do much physical work I sweat like a dog in all that plastic and thats a bad thing.

    HH Impertech is my utility work wear rain gear for outdoor pursuits when weight does not matter. It does not breathe so well, but keeps the water out. Do you feel your new Schoeller line can hold the water back like the Impertech stuff?

    I noticed some questions on care and maintenace on some of the posts. Would be nice to see a care and maintenance section on your website so we had a place to refer to. I typically use the ATSKO Sport Wash stuff. I think it is pretty universal, but Toray and Schoeller are new beasts and I don’t want to screw them up…

    Matt

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Matt,

      All of your points are well noted. This gear is certainly your utility gear for sure. Durability and reliability and comfort were the focus of this development. Let me know if you have any other questions.

      J

  25. Stephen Hand

    Jason,
    It is very interesting to follow the development of your products. More research is always good and could provide spillover benefits for the Kuiu line. It is a good way to maintain interest and exposure for Kuiu and provide that “fix” to those of us who look forward to the next news from Kuiu.
    I am still anxious to see a Kuiu, camo, long sleeve, hot weather shirt with two button or top zipper big pockets on the chest. Keep the information coming.

    • Jason Hairston

      Glad to hear you find this type of post of interest. Thanks for the input Stephen.

      Jason

  26. Jason

    Look into standard hunting apparel in WB-400. I am very excited about advancement into the Schoeller arena. I’ve been a big fan for years and have tried to nudge the hunting industry that direction. Glad to see KUIU taking the plunge. I think it is a match made in heaven…er, um…I mean Alaska!!

    • Jason Hairston

      I am a big fan of Schoeller for their durability and Toray for their weight and technology advancements. Toray fabrics are very durable and quieter than Schoeller. The combination of the two for KUIU will be deadly. Pun intended:)

      J

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  28. Ron Green

    Jason,

    Thanks for keeping us all informed. It is nice to see what gear is in the works and the testing that goes on to get it ready for market.

    Ron

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Ron,

      Thank you for taking the time to comment and glad you find this of interest.

      Jason

  29. Ryan Sanpei

    If I have another boy, I’m naming him Lance!

    • Jason Hairston

      Me Too!

      J

  30. Joe Polunc

    Jason,
    Its good to read Lance is testing the latest prototype of the “Overkill” jacket and pants. Some guys are tough on gear based on conditions and where they hunt. I’m sure all of us have been through the multiple purchases of “bargain gear” and dealt with failures in the field. In many cases buying something of quality once, is cheaper in the long run. Keep up the good work and we’ll all follow the spring bear hunts as Lance tests “Overkill”.

    • Jason Hairston

      Overkill! Great take on a name for this gear. Maybe we should have a name this gear contest for a free set??

      J

      • Cameron

        Jason I like the idea of picking w name. Before I saw that you said this I was actually thinking “Kodiak” would be a great name. I mean that’s one of the places Lance is hunting and doing guided hunts. Along with a lot of other guides. It’s also probably where gear like this is best suited. Oh and the animals being hunted are some of the most exciting toughest animals to hunt , the “Kodiak” Grizzly! Toughest gear on the hunter hunting the toughest animal in America!

      • Matthew

        How about “KUIU Business Suit” or just “Kronberger”. Haha, must be cool to run prototypes and adjust them.

      • Mike P

        “Overkill” would be a good name.

        or

        “Alaskan Deluge”

        or

        “Noah Jacket” 🙂

        or

        “The Lance”

        cheers,

        Mike P

        • Jason Hairston

          The Lance!!

  31. Jared Kitchene

    Once again first-class communication and products. I am very impressed with everything I have received so far (almost everything in the line) and have no doubt you will get this system dialed in. Thanks for taking us along and I look forward to following your continued success.

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks for taking the time to comment. This will be a fun project to take you all on.

      Jason

  32. Allan

    Jason,

    Very neat looking and innovative jacket and pants made from the Schoeller material. Just how waterproof is this compared to the Chugach clothing? Like others, I would like to know the weight when you can get Lance to weigh it. I like all the pockets too. Obviously, the weight, bulk and noise are all downsides, but for some purposes the extra durability and pockets might be worth it, especially if the fabric is more waterproof and I would be hunting for weeks in cold, wet conditions. Most of the time I would rather have light, packable, high performance clothing like you currently are offering.

    I will repeat my support for the long sleeve, warm weather shirt that Stephen Hand has described again, and I know you will keep the traditional bowhunter in mind when designing it so that the camo material is not only cool but also very quiet for stalking and fairly durable for those encounters with rock and brush. I love the Vias pattern for the shirt in most environments, and I’m sure the new green camo you are designing would work well for everything else. I recently got some flyfishing shirts with magnetic flap pockets, and they are an interesting alternative to buttons — please don’t use velcro on pockets. But do include rollup tabs for the sleeves and at least one zippered pocket to provide maximum security for some items.

    I finally got my two orders today in two boxes!!! The last time anything wrapped that nicely came to my house it was from Neiman-Marcus. Inside the box there was the paper wrapping sealed with a Kuiu logo sticker, and beneath the wrapping were all the articles of clothing neatly folded and held in place by Kuiu labeled bands. The clothing was arranged perfectly so that it fit exactly in the boxes like someone had engineered the packing process and designed it to display the clothing in the most aesthetically pleasing way. AMAZING attention to detail. (I had to stop and take photographs because only those who have seen it will believe it.) This was not like opening up an order from Cabela’s (which is a good company nevertheless). And the clothing itself is amazing as well. I seem to have a smaller than average head at size 7 1/4, because the Guide Beanie fits me perfectly. I can hardly wait to try out everything, but that will have to wait for the weekend. Everything at least LOOKS wonderful.

    Many thanks,

    Allan

    • JohnC

      I was taken aback by the care and detail of the packaging as well. Not only is it a nice, classy touch (which honestly is not going to make a huge difference to men when they just want to get their hands on new hunting gear) but I really do appreciate the you are not using plastic bags. Our world is unnecessarily littered with cheap plastic bags!

      • Jason Hairston

        Hi John,

        Thank ou for noticing and taking the time to comment. Most of the office furniture is made with re-claimed wood as well. I try and do everything we can to help with the environment.

        Jason

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Allan,

      I am so happy to hear you finally have your gear. Thank you for your patience. This gear Lance is testing is not more waterproof or breathable than the Chugach gear, just more durable. I do not recommend this gear for most guys. It will be too heavy for normal hunting applications. The Chugach will be a much better set up for most.

      Jason

  33. Trevor Probandt

    “It is unheard of to share this type of product innovation and development during the testing and design phase of a product concept. I am willing to take the risk to give you more insight of our design and testing phase. You all are such gear nuts I thought you might enjoy following the process. Please let me know you thoughts and comments. I always value your input.”

    The last paragraph of your post is why you have the following that you do. Do I need Schoeller products in Texas, New Mexico and Colorado. Hell NO!!! But it is good to know it is out there and it helps me learn about what goes into the products we buy…and more importantly, it makes us all informed consumers and THAT in itself pushes the envelope even more as other’s work to keep up and/or exceed KUIU in the future. Keep up the strong work Jason, we all benefit from your approach.

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks Trevor! It is like the carbon fiber frame, we may not all need one but they are really cool. I live for challenging design and could not be more thrilled sharing this project and seeing this type of feedback! Thank you.

      Jason

  34. Craig Germond

    KUIU gear is just getting better and better. There’s no limit where KUIU will go to make the best possible hunting gear made. I’d really like to see some kind of bino system design for inclement weather or hot dusty climates. Keep up the great work!

  35. Tim Hoffer

    Hi Jason,
    Great information, and I am very interested in more reports on how the pants/jacket system develop–you are right, there are a lot of gear junkies on this blog!
    Just curious, how did you come about the color selection for his test gear? It is an interesting green shade, similar to a Cloudveil jacket I have seen before.
    Like many on this site, I currently use alpine climbing pants/jackets for much of my hunting, just for the reasons you listed, and because much of the hunting clothing made today is garbage, with zippers everywhere, pockets where you don’t need them, and subpar construction.
    With dedicated alpine climbing outerwear, typically the fit is more trim, the details are better (stitching, pockets, scuff guards, etc.) so it usually finds its way into my pack or on my body for the fall here in Montana. While the jacket and pants combo you are having Lance test may be more than I need in Montana during archery season, I spent 6 days last fall during September hunting in wind and rain, and I would have liked it then–so, I don’t think it would be so “overkill” to have it down in the lower 48, especially for late November elk hunts. The snow and cold can be brutal.
    From the photos it is difficult to tell, but how long is the jacket? 3/4 or waist length?
    Keep up the great work and getting useful, ingenious gear out–much appreciated!

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Tim,

      This Jacket is a mid-length cut. The colors are what is available for sampling from Schoeller. We usually do not get much in the way of selection. Do you have a color preference for this gear? It is bomb proof stuff is you are going to live in your rain gear.

      Jason

  36. Samuel McDowell

    Awesome! This set should slot in perfect for my late season/snow sports gear. I’ve been interested in Schoeller fabrics for a long time, can’t wait to try. What colors are you planning, and are the reinforcement patches going to be black in the production model?

    BTW, the fabric doesn’t seem to be blood resistant…:)

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Samuel,

      Yes, this gear will work great for this. What colors do you want? Let me know.

      Jason

  37. Jason Hairston

    Thanks Craig! I appreciate the feedback and comment.

    Jason

  38. James Reinert

    You may want to consider adding removable knee pads like in the Sitka Mountain Pant

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks James, well noted. The Mountain Pant was my design, glad you like them:)

      Jason

  39. Brent Hahn

    Jason, the color scheme lance has on looks pretty awsome imo.
    Someone mentioned the magnetic close pockets, I’ve used them alot on my rivers west stuff in AK and late season here in OR, and do not care for them, they grab all kinds of stuff and themselves and mess with a compass. Something I’ve though about for years is a pocket opening/closure kind of like the flexible spring bands on the top of the opening of the older badlands packs. If it interests you let me know. Maybe you’ve already considered it.

    Also noticed with the guide jacket that the collar tabs lay perfectly flat when unzipped a little ways, completely out of the way of bowstring. Don’t know if you designed the cut that way but its pretty cool and haven’t had a hunting jacket that did that. Also shot my bow for about 30 min in our lovely spring drizzle with the guide jacket, hood on, no hat, no prob, came in took it off and shook it a couple times, couldn’t find a drop on that sucker, hung it up in the closet! Sweet!
    Brent

  40. Tim Hoffer

    Jason,
    Regarding the color of the test jacket and pants (avocado meets Kermit the frog sort of green, which is pretty cool, by the way!), I don’t mind camo at all, and really like the Vias pattern you developed–from what I can see, it really breaks up the outline.
    Along those lines, I do think some of the standard “natural tones” work really well in most hunting situations: medium to light grays, light browns, olive drab greens, etc. I noticed in one of your photos, it looks like you dad, I think, is wearing some KUIU pants and they look to be a medium brown color; those look great, and would work well out West. Not too dark, not too light to “stand out”.
    Can’t wait to see where the line goes, and hopefully get my hands on some of it for this fall.

  41. Matthew

    Would you compare the weight/durability of this stuff to a pair of Simms waders? I own a set of those that are basically bulletproof. The other great thing about those waders is the warranty. For a small fee, they’ll repair them…even if it’s your fault. I haven’t torn or punctured them ever, and I’ve had some serious opportunities for failure. I think you could sell these for whatever price point you wanted if you offered that sort of warranty and service attached.

  42. Jeff

    Jason,
    Glad to see somebody finally get in the hunting game with the Schoeller product. The natural tones will be nice to see instead of the climbing colors.
    Has there been any thought to adding the extra protection to the cuffs, knees, and seat of the attack and chugach pants?

    Jeff

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  44. Michael

    I look forward to seeing these. I think Schoeller pants are the BEST pants for outside use of any I have worn. I cannot wait to see how you all do them.

  45. Gale Smith

    Are there any future plans of putting pockets in the Chugach jacket and pants? How about chest pockets in the Guide jacket?

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Gale,

      The Chugach Jacket and pants and Guide Jacket will not be changed. The goal is to keep this gear as light weight and streamlined as possible for backpack hunting. I am working on a some new designs on a soft shell jacket that will have chest pockets and a shoulder pocket in 2012 and a rain gear jacket and pants as you have seen in this post.

      J

  46. Larry Schwartz

    Jason,

    Glad to see that KUIU is also looking at some not so streamlined additions to its product line. I fully understand and agree with keeping the lightweight products as they are, but there is definitely a demand out there for KUIU design, materials, and quality in a not so streamlined set of products.

    Larry

    • Jason Hairston

      Thanks for the comment Larry!

  47. Andrew

    Any new feed back on the jacket and pants?

    • Jason Hairston

      Hi Andrew,

      Yes, we have finalized a new fabric from Toray for this Jacket and Pant that is much better than the Schoeller fabric at repelling water and is quieter without giving up durability. The next round of samples will be out in the next month or so to be tested. This will be an impressive product.

      Jason